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		<title>By: Elizabeth McCoy</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23455</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth McCoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*chuckle* In my defense, in spite of creating a Mary Sue self-insert who fell into a book-world... The book-world was entirely original and no one else&#039;s creation. (The fictional book being fictionally badly written, among other sins that include far too many &quot;thees&quot; and &quot;thous.&quot;) But yes, we got telepathic cats after a while, so there&#039;s all the bases covered.

(Must. Finish. Chainsawing. My. Book. Here. So I can reward myself with someone else&#039;s book and not worry that I&#039;m going to unintentionally absorb someone else&#039;s style. Because that would be rude.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*chuckle* In my defense, in spite of creating a Mary Sue self-insert who fell into a book-world&#8230; The book-world was entirely original and no one else&#8217;s creation. (The fictional book being fictionally badly written, among other sins that include far too many &#8220;thees&#8221; and &#8220;thous.&#8221;) But yes, we got telepathic cats after a while, so there&#8217;s all the bases covered.</p>
<p>(Must. Finish. Chainsawing. My. Book. Here. So I can reward myself with someone else&#8217;s book and not worry that I&#8217;m going to unintentionally absorb someone else&#8217;s style. Because that would be rude.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23241</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch out for those cats!  Tricksy little critters.

You know... I just realized that Novel 1 has cats.  Darn.  I&#039;ll bet that&#039;s the flaw in the first chapters I couldn&#039;t identify.  Maybe if I make them penguins...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch out for those cats!  Tricksy little critters.</p>
<p>You know&#8230; I just realized that Novel 1 has cats.  Darn.  I&#8217;ll bet that&#8217;s the flaw in the first chapters I couldn&#8217;t identify.  Maybe if I make them penguins&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23237</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first novel had cats! It was a mess. My second novel had cats! It was less of a mess, but still no good. I&#039;m on my third, and there are no cats. Needless to say, this one is actually pretty good so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first novel had cats! It was a mess. My second novel had cats! It was less of a mess, but still no good. I&#8217;m on my third, and there are no cats. Needless to say, this one is actually pretty good so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23181</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Iâ€™m still convinced that somewhere we have to believe that our first novel will be the exception, or else we wonâ€™t write it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Oh, sure.  I mean, Ken sold his first novel in a five book deal.  It definitely happens.  Heck, I&#039;m still sure Novel 1 will sell eventually.  I think the thing that made everything click for me was when I realized that I didn&#039;t have to try to sell the novels in the order in which I&#039;d written them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Iâ€™m still convinced that somewhere we have to believe that our first novel will be the exception, or else we wonâ€™t write it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, sure.  I mean, Ken sold his first novel in a five book deal.  It definitely happens.  Heck, I&#8217;m still sure Novel 1 will sell eventually.  I think the thing that made everything click for me was when I realized that I didn&#8217;t have to try to sell the novels in the order in which I&#8217;d written them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting you should talk abut that. We were just having this discussion on Codex. 

I&#039;m still convinced that somewhere we have to believe that our first novel will be the exception, or else we won&#039;t write it. Combination naivete, ego, whatever. It has to get us through. Unless it&#039;s a pure word marathon like NaNoWriMo, which is an great exercise. 

I wonder if many writers stop at the first novel though, because their ego dashed, they will no longer work on the novel. The difference between the successful writer and the failed one is simply a matter of perseverence. We may have lost some of the naivety on the second novel, but we have to still believe this one will work, and we believe that because we think we&#039;ve learned enough. 

Either that, or we just love to write no matter what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting you should talk abut that. We were just having this discussion on Codex. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still convinced that somewhere we have to believe that our first novel will be the exception, or else we won&#8217;t write it. Combination naivete, ego, whatever. It has to get us through. Unless it&#8217;s a pure word marathon like NaNoWriMo, which is an great exercise. </p>
<p>I wonder if many writers stop at the first novel though, because their ego dashed, they will no longer work on the novel. The difference between the successful writer and the failed one is simply a matter of perseverence. We may have lost some of the naivety on the second novel, but we have to still believe this one will work, and we believe that because we think we&#8217;ve learned enough. </p>
<p>Either that, or we just love to write no matter what.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23162</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Password on its way.

I think, yes, werecats count as required cats.  Congratulations! That&#039;s now out of your system.  Novel 4 sounds fascinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Password on its way.</p>
<p>I think, yes, werecats count as required cats.  Congratulations! That&#8217;s now out of your system.  Novel 4 sounds fascinating.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23161</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh.  Not for picture books.</description>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23160</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that counts. And a Mary Sue trumps a cat, I&#039;d say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that counts. And a Mary Sue trumps a cat, I&#8217;d say.</p>
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		<title>By: Michele Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23150</link>
		<dc:creator>Michele Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d too, would like to get mailed a password to read more of your work, if you approve. Version one of my Novel 1 was... amateur. Version 2 got a lot of really promising comments from agents, 6 full requests out of 10, and almost all in the end said that the story couldn&#039;t sell on the market. I wrote two other novels between First novel Version 1 and Version 2. When Version 2 started shopping I started writing novel 4. Now novel 4 is out and I find myself drawn back to novel 1 again. I think the execution is at fault, but that the idea, and the characters are solid.

Novels 2 and 3... they have been declared &quot;first drafts&quot; and I might, some day, go back to them. Unlikely as my focus as a writer has shifted since then.

Novel 1 is: Werewolf love story-Sex and Violence version
Novel 2 is: Wannabe rock star werehyena vs vampires
Novel 3 is: A werecat story. Does that could as the required cats?
Novel 4 is: Post apocalyptic CSI complicated by the existence of shape shifters and vampires</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d too, would like to get mailed a password to read more of your work, if you approve. Version one of my Novel 1 was&#8230; amateur. Version 2 got a lot of really promising comments from agents, 6 full requests out of 10, and almost all in the end said that the story couldn&#8217;t sell on the market. I wrote two other novels between First novel Version 1 and Version 2. When Version 2 started shopping I started writing novel 4. Now novel 4 is out and I find myself drawn back to novel 1 again. I think the execution is at fault, but that the idea, and the characters are solid.</p>
<p>Novels 2 and 3&#8230; they have been declared &#8220;first drafts&#8221; and I might, some day, go back to them. Unlikely as my focus as a writer has shifted since then.</p>
<p>Novel 1 is: Werewolf love story-Sex and Violence version<br />
Novel 2 is: Wannabe rock star werehyena vs vampires<br />
Novel 3 is: A werecat story. Does that could as the required cats?<br />
Novel 4 is: Post apocalyptic CSI complicated by the existence of shape shifters and vampires</p>
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		<title>By: Mike F</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23141</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that makes sense when you think about it. Now you&#039;ve inspired me. Thanks! Know any good agents? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that makes sense when you think about it. Now you&#8217;ve inspired me. Thanks! Know any good agents? <img src='http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth McCoy</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23139</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth McCoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to say my first novel didn&#039;t have cats, but then I went back to the high-school Mary Sue novella... Hm, no, that didn&#039;t have cats, either, though it was a series of stories and the cats got in there eventually, so maybe that counts. *grin*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to say my first novel didn&#8217;t have cats, but then I went back to the high-school Mary Sue novella&#8230; Hm, no, that didn&#8217;t have cats, either, though it was a series of stories and the cats got in there eventually, so maybe that counts. *grin*</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23134</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you should get it out of your system. I understand that it&#039;s a phase all writers go through.</description>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23133</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually had that moment today where I was trying to explain a story I was reading except it was a horror story and I was talking to an eight year old.  Once you stripped out all the scary bits, the basic premise became kind of sweet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually had that moment today where I was trying to explain a story I was reading except it was a horror story and I was talking to an eight year old.  Once you stripped out all the scary bits, the basic premise became kind of sweet.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23131</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You went to high school with lumbering catfish? I think that was our school mascot...</description>
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		<title>By: Mike F</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23130</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a bad idea. I&#039;ll make sure to give you credit when it&#039;s published. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a bad idea. I&#8217;ll make sure to give you credit when it&#8217;s published. <img src='http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chang</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23129</link>
		<dc:creator>Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The catfish didn&#039;t fly.  They... lumbered, I think.  I&#039;ve done my best to destroy all remnants of this novel.  There are still a fe copies of it floating around.  It&#039;s nothing but a mess of paranoid delusions, bad sex, weird music and poor clothing choices.

Hang on.  That was high school.  Oh my god.  They were one and the same!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The catfish didn&#8217;t fly.  They&#8230; lumbered, I think.  I&#8217;ve done my best to destroy all remnants of this novel.  There are still a fe copies of it floating around.  It&#8217;s nothing but a mess of paranoid delusions, bad sex, weird music and poor clothing choices.</p>
<p>Hang on.  That was high school.  Oh my god.  They were one and the same!</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23127</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have yet to write anything with cats.

Is that bad? 

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to write anything with cats.</p>
<p>Is that bad? </p>
<p> <img src='http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23123</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deep breaths, Lawrence.  Deeeeep breaths.

I realized that I should have mentioned that Ken Scholes booked with Jennifer on the basis of his first novel and immediately sold it in a five book deal.  As I said, mileage varies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deep breaths, Lawrence.  Deeeeep breaths.</p>
<p>I realized that I should have mentioned that Ken Scholes booked with Jennifer on the basis of his first novel and immediately sold it in a five book deal.  As I said, mileage varies.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe instead of trying to find it, you should rewrite it as a children&#039;s picture book.  Sounds like it could be cute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe instead of trying to find it, you should rewrite it as a children&#8217;s picture book.  Sounds like it could be cute.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23121</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice!  Did the giant walking catfish fly?

Oh.  Did I mention that my winged-cat-human-aliens also regenerated... nine times?  Not that this is an adequate defense, but the regeneration thing came from Dr. Who.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice!  Did the giant walking catfish fly?</p>
<p>Oh.  Did I mention that my winged-cat-human-aliens also regenerated&#8230; nine times?  Not that this is an adequate defense, but the regeneration thing came from Dr. Who.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooo... That sounds like a convention panel if I&#039;ve ever heard one.  &quot;Why do so many first novels have cats?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooo&#8230; That sounds like a convention panel if I&#8217;ve ever heard one.  &#8220;Why do so many first novels have cats?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the ability to write in different genres comes from years of designing shows to match other peoples&#039; styles.  I learned to break down the elements and incorporate them into my own work.  Or at least that&#039;s what I&#039;ll blame it on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the ability to write in different genres comes from years of designing shows to match other peoples&#8217; styles.  I learned to break down the elements and incorporate them into my own work.  Or at least that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ll blame it on.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See! I didn&#039;t start my first novel until I was in high school. You were way ahead of the curve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See! I didn&#8217;t start my first novel until I was in high school. You were way ahead of the curve.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly.</description>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But there are already so many things that the world can blame Jay Lake for.  What&#039;s one more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But there are already so many things that the world can blame Jay Lake for.  What&#8217;s one more?</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence M. Schoen</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23112</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence M. Schoen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great. Like my stress levels weren&#039;t high enough already?

::sigh::</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great. Like my stress levels weren&#8217;t high enough already?</p>
<p>::sigh::</p>
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		<title>By: Mike F</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23111</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I didn&#039;t write a novel in sixth grade, but I did write a story about a Christmas tree that was alive. I wish I knew where that was... This was a very informative post. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I didn&#8217;t write a novel in sixth grade, but I did write a story about a Christmas tree that was alive. I wish I knew where that was&#8230; This was a very informative post. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Chang</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23103</link>
		<dc:creator>Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first novel had catfish!

Giant, walking catfish!

Top that!

(Actually it was my 2nd novel.  The first had crap.  No, not carp.  Crap!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first novel had catfish!</p>
<p>Giant, walking catfish!</p>
<p>Top that!</p>
<p>(Actually it was my 2nd novel.  The first had crap.  No, not carp.  Crap!).</p>
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		<title>By: Aliette de Bodard</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23102</link>
		<dc:creator>Aliette de Bodard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mine had cat people (I don&#039;t even count it as a novel, as it was totally incoherent). I think we can do a contest about first-novels-with-cats :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mine had cat people (I don&#8217;t even count it as a novel, as it was totally incoherent). I think we can do a contest about first-novels-with-cats <img src='http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aliette de Bodard</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23101</link>
		<dc:creator>Aliette de Bodard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could write in as many genres as you. I can do fantasy, and that&#039;s pretty much it (most kinds of fantasy, but that&#039;s still subgenres). I could probably write an SF novel, but my heart wouldn&#039;t be in it.
But I&#039;m totally with you on progress. The amount of progress I made between novel #0 (YA, embarrassingly bad) and novel #3 (fantasy mystery thingie, almost ready to make its own way into the world now) has been immense. It really takes several hundred pages of bad writing to get to not-so-bad writing :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could write in as many genres as you. I can do fantasy, and that&#8217;s pretty much it (most kinds of fantasy, but that&#8217;s still subgenres). I could probably write an SF novel, but my heart wouldn&#8217;t be in it.<br />
But I&#8217;m totally with you on progress. The amount of progress I made between novel #0 (YA, embarrassingly bad) and novel #3 (fantasy mystery thingie, almost ready to make its own way into the world now) has been immense. It really takes several hundred pages of bad writing to get to not-so-bad writing <img src='http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: J. Cheney</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23100</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Cheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still have a novel I started in 6th grade.  ::shakes head::  
It had cats in it.  Hmmm....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still have a novel I started in 6th grade.  ::shakes head::<br />
It had cats in it.  Hmmm&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Aliette de Bodard</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23099</link>
		<dc:creator>Aliette de Bodard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I figure that is totally how I would have reacted either. Sucking is one thing; dragging other people down is another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I figure that is totally how I would have reacted either. Sucking is one thing; dragging other people down is another.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23097</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds very, very familiar.</description>
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		<title>By: Chang</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23096</link>
		<dc:creator>Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, never mind.  Mine&#039;s in with someone I was sent to via a mutual friend and I&#039;m almost as deperate to not make waves as I am to know what the verdict is.

Okay, I&#039;m done writing.  Back to The Sopranos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, never mind.  Mine&#8217;s in with someone I was sent to via a mutual friend and I&#8217;m almost as deperate to not make waves as I am to know what the verdict is.</p>
<p>Okay, I&#8217;m done writing.  Back to The Sopranos.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth McCoy</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23095</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth McCoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooooo! If it is deemed acceptable, my utmost thanks!
And if not, I shall practice patience and see if I can hack a few more thousand unwanted words off my pretty little pet here, instead. *grin*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooo! If it is deemed acceptable, my utmost thanks!<br />
And if not, I shall practice patience and see if I can hack a few more thousand unwanted words off my pretty little pet here, instead. *grin*</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23094</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay (yes your sir) has been a bit of an inspiration me... I went into writing (with the intent of publication)head first with the long-form-uber-novel-series several years ago. It took me less than a month to complete my first novel, and about the same for the second. I shopped the first around and after reaching my designated threshold of rejections I paid a lovely freelance editor to rip it to shreds and tell my why it didn&#039;t work.
It was painful. It also told me what I already knew (but needed to hear it from an industry pro): I wasn&#039;t ready for publication.

After meeting Jay (via LJ) and reading his short fiction I decided that perhaps mastery of shorter pieces would tighten my writing to the point of publishable quality. I think there&#039;s something to that approach--- and the world can blame Jay Lake if my short fiction gets published.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay (yes your sir) has been a bit of an inspiration me&#8230; I went into writing (with the intent of publication)head first with the long-form-uber-novel-series several years ago. It took me less than a month to complete my first novel, and about the same for the second. I shopped the first around and after reaching my designated threshold of rejections I paid a lovely freelance editor to rip it to shreds and tell my why it didn&#8217;t work.<br />
It was painful. It also told me what I already knew (but needed to hear it from an industry pro): I wasn&#8217;t ready for publication.</p>
<p>After meeting Jay (via LJ) and reading his short fiction I decided that perhaps mastery of shorter pieces would tighten my writing to the point of publishable quality. I think there&#8217;s something to that approach&#8212; and the world can blame Jay Lake if my short fiction gets published.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23093</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I totally understood that and it&#039;s a very smart policy.  Believe you me, I watch you and take lessons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I totally understood that and it&#8217;s a very smart policy.  Believe you me, I watch you and take lessons.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23092</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth is, I was nervous every single day that Jennifer had the manuscript because, since I felt like it had an impact Ken&#039;s relationship with her, the stakes seemed higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth is, I was nervous every single day that Jennifer had the manuscript because, since I felt like it had an impact Ken&#8217;s relationship with her, the stakes seemed higher.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Lake</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23091</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Lake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken and I talked quite specifically about you at one point in this exact context.  While I like and respect you immensely, I haven&#039;t read enough of your work to have referred you in good conscience.  I only referred Ken after reading &lt;i&gt;Lamentation&lt;/i&gt;, which escalated him from a &#039;handshake&#039; to my first full on referral.

My second referral was for Kathy Sedia, on pretty much the same basis &#8212; I&#039;d read her full length work and was sufficiently impressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken and I talked quite specifically about you at one point in this exact context.  While I like and respect you immensely, I haven&#8217;t read enough of your work to have referred you in good conscience.  I only referred Ken after reading <i>Lamentation</i>, which escalated him from a &#8216;handshake&#8217; to my first full on referral.</p>
<p>My second referral was for Kathy Sedia, on pretty much the same basis &mdash; I&#8217;d read her full length work and was sufficiently impressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23090</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, Elizabeth!  I was posting chapters of Novel 4 in password protected posts as I was writing, but I should probably check with Jennifer to see if it&#039;s okay to still have that available.  If it is, I&#039;ll send you the password.

And good luck with yours!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Elizabeth!  I was posting chapters of Novel 4 in password protected posts as I was writing, but I should probably check with Jennifer to see if it&#8217;s okay to still have that available.  If it is, I&#8217;ll send you the password.</p>
<p>And good luck with yours!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Robinette Kowal</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23089</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Robinette Kowal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, and though it was very tempting, I never asked you to introduce me.  While it should be obvious what a bad position asking to be introduced puts someone in, it&#039;s probably worth noting explicitly.

If a fellow writer likes your work enough to recommend you to his agent, you won&#039;t need to ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, and though it was very tempting, I never asked you to introduce me.  While it should be obvious what a bad position asking to be introduced puts someone in, it&#8217;s probably worth noting explicitly.</p>
<p>If a fellow writer likes your work enough to recommend you to his agent, you won&#8217;t need to ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Chang</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23087</link>
		<dc:creator>Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOOH!!!  PICK ME!!! PICK ME!!!

I&#039;ll take back everything I said about the ISS and the picture in the attic.  I&#039;ve never seen you look better in fact!  :)

Seriously, the process of submitting work is harrowing.  I am on eggshells waiting for my book to get out of the slushpile and under someone&#039;s eyes.  It&#039;s nice to see these posts as they give one an understanding of how this weird world works.

Oh, but wait, I should be writing another book now instead of surfing, posting and commenting so I will say goodbye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOOH!!!  PICK ME!!! PICK ME!!!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take back everything I said about the ISS and the picture in the attic.  I&#8217;ve never seen you look better in fact!  <img src='http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously, the process of submitting work is harrowing.  I am on eggshells waiting for my book to get out of the slushpile and under someone&#8217;s eyes.  It&#8217;s nice to see these posts as they give one an understanding of how this weird world works.</p>
<p>Oh, but wait, I should be writing another book now instead of surfing, posting and commenting so I will say goodbye.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth McCoy</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23086</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth McCoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I confess, I&#039;m over here via the obvious livejournal track, and my little ears have perked up at the Novel 4 mention. ...is that, by some happy chance, out yet where I could pounce on it?

(Second confession: I&#039;m working on something vaguely kinda sorta similar and I want to see what works, that I might take the lessons, sea-change them, and use them myself.)

If not out, I, a complete internet stranger, am now crossing my fingers that its sale and/or publication goes smoothly and well for you. O:&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I confess, I&#8217;m over here via the obvious livejournal track, and my little ears have perked up at the Novel 4 mention. &#8230;is that, by some happy chance, out yet where I could pounce on it?</p>
<p>(Second confession: I&#8217;m working on something vaguely kinda sorta similar and I want to see what works, that I might take the lessons, sea-change them, and use them myself.)</p>
<p>If not out, I, a complete internet stranger, am now crossing my fingers that its sale and/or publication goes smoothly and well for you. O:&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Lake</title>
		<link>http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/getting-introduced-to-someone-elses-agent/comment-page-1/#comment-23085</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Lake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the networking in the world does squat if you got nothing going on.  And the total number of people I&#039;ve referred to Jenn, in the formal sense, over the years is exactly two.  Both of them she took on.  I am very parsimonious with my recommendations, and very protective of her.  I will handshake anyone to her, if she is in a public setting, but that&#039;s different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the networking in the world does squat if you got nothing going on.  And the total number of people I&#8217;ve referred to Jenn, in the formal sense, over the years is exactly two.  Both of them she took on.  I am very parsimonious with my recommendations, and very protective of her.  I will handshake anyone to her, if she is in a public setting, but that&#8217;s different.</p>
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